Becoming AI-First: Unlocking Creativity, Business, and Flow (Ft. Dan Koe and Robert Rodriguez)

In this powerful and philosophical conversation, Cody Lowe and Brett Kirchner dive deep into how AI—especially tools like ChatGPT—can transform your work, creativity, and life. From prompt mastery and building digital products to inner peace, flow states, and spiritual maturity, this episode touches on everything that matters in the modern age of automation and self-awareness.

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How to become AI-first

Prompt engineering secrets

Digital product creation using AI

Flow states vs happiness

The difference between gratitude and happiness

Why creativity is the key to fulfillment

Spiritual reflections on purpose and faith

Inspired by thinkers like Dan Koe, Robert Rodriguez, and spiritual traditions from Orthodox Christianity to modern Stoicism.

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Chapters:

0:00 - Intro: The Dan Koe Inspiration
1:10 - 3 Types of AI Users
2:45 - How AI Sparks Creativity and Growth
4:00 - Realizing You’re Already Skilled at Using AI
6:00 - Mastering Prompt Engineering
7:10 - What It Means to Be AI-First
9:40 - The 3 Key Features of Being AI-Native
12:15 - What Is a Product Bet?
14:30 - Using Comments & Interviews to Guide Content
16:10 - Staying Relevant With Real-Time Feedback
17:30 - Automating Yourself Out of Work
20:10 - Google's AI Is Basically Jarvis Now
21:30 - Kids vs Adults: The Future of AI
22:50 - The Limits of General Advice From AI
24:00 - Creating Meta-Prompts to Write Landing Pages
28:10 - Turning Skills Into AI Prompts
32:00 - Philosophy of Work: Comfort vs Challenge
34:20 - Flow States vs Enjoyment
38:00 - Inner Peace Over Emotional Happiness
42:00 - Gratitude vs Happiness: A Deep Dive
46:00 - Philosophical Prompt on Gratitude
50:10 - AI Helping Articulation and Creativity
52:00 - Salvation and Continual Self-Improvement
54:20 - Robert Rodriguez on Creative Flow
56:30 - Living a Creative Life Is the One Thing
57:40 - Wrapping Up: Finding Flow and Fulfillment